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By Products That Count
Each of the 300+ episodes features a product leader interviewing another product leader and exploring what it takes to build great products. Recent ones feature the Chief Product Officers of Brex, Glassdoor, Experian and more.
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Product discovery, prioritization, roadmaps, growth, positioning, and product management.
Hiring, career development, skills, workplace practice, and professional progression in technology.
User research, usability, discovery methods, customer insight, and evidence-led design.
Formats
Host-led conversation where a guest supplies most of the subject matter.
Detailed technical, architectural, or research-oriented examination.
Audience level
Assumes basic technology literacy and familiarity with common products, roles, and terminology.
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Arnab Bose is the Chief Product Officer at Asana and one of the most outcome-oriented product leaders in the industry. Before Asana, he spent nearly six years as CPO of the Okta platform, where he led product strategy across identity and security.
Michael Affronti is the Chief Product and Business Officer at DriveCentric, the number one CRM and engagement platform for automotive dealerships, and one of the most hands-on product leaders building and using AI agents today.
How do you make product bets today for a world that will not arrive for another six years?
What does it take to build health products that truly understand women's bodies?
What if the waste product of one industry could become the clean fuel source for another? The scale and urgency of the transformation required to fight climate change has never been more clear.
Everyone says trust is the new moat in AI, but is anyone actually building for it end to end? She also gets into why hesitation is the real risk in product leadership, what clarity over consensus means in practice, and how the designer's role is quietly becoming something entirely new.
What happens when a 50-year-old software company tries to move at the speed of AI, and what does it really take to merge two very different product cultures after an acquisition?
What happens when coding stops being a constraint for product teams, and what should product leaders do right now to get ready?
What does product leadership look like when AI makes everyone a builder? His take on the "PM as CEO of the product" framing: it's about accountability for outcomes, not authority over people, and getting that wrong is one of the most common traps in early product careers.
What does it take to stay relevant as a CPO when the very definition of the product manager role is being rewritten in real time? She also gets into how she structures product reviews, why the hardest problems at Carta are the ones you can't measure, and what battle scars really mean in a product leader.